In the discussions about the procedure followed for the privatization of the former complex “Partizani” and the investigation launched by SPAK on this issue, the former head of the Logistic Support Command of the FA, Vladimir Qiriazi, also intervened in the show. He faced Abi Malltez and the other panelists.
After the accusations leveled against him by Berisha’s son-in-law for corruption, Qiriazi intervened in “Open” and clarified the matter by stating that at that time he received a continuous order for 6 months from the Ministry of Defense, headed by Gazmend Oketa, for to sign the procedure.
But, former general Qiriazi underlined that the firm was not within his powers as this property was not found in the accounting of the Command he led. He did not agree to sign the affair that SPAK is investigating today and was dismissed from office.
“It was an entirely fictitious procedure. I’m not saying that I had pressure. I have been requested through orders and letters and I have responded according to law. Mr. Bylykbashi’s anti-corruption office came and asked me to sign that thing, telling me that the owners who request it could cause problems for the state, I have everything according to the law.
After I left, I was fired in September, I don’t know what happened. Until the moment I was in command, I did not sign it because it was illegal. I am very sorry for Mr. Jamarbër who accuses me of corruption because I know what I have removed after this procedure. I was a state employee, I carried out my duties in the most serious way”, said Qiriazi, among other things.
The full debate in the studio of the show “Open”
Glidona Daci: There are no investigative links that SPAK has with Mr. Berisha or Mr. Malltezi. It’s a simple inquiry by number, there are no names. Would Mr. Malltezi be willing to face General Qirjazi in SPAK?
Maltez: General, I have no idea what you stand for. Yes, I don’t have any relationship and I don’t know what function it performs and why I should face it. I go to SPAK for anything, but here I told you a fact that that man was fired because he was found in violation of the law.
Rental: Since I was mentioned I would like to say something. I am aware of this procedure as I was Commander of Logistic Support and for a period of no less than 6 months I dealt with this problem. In this whole procedure I have the necessary correspondence, and perhaps you have seen it and give me full justice.
Basil: Lubonja asked a question. You say it was illegal, but why was it?
Rental: If you had the procedure I left, the property I was asked to sign was not in the Logistic Command’s accounting. The owners did not present any certificate or other document to receive it. Several audits have arrived to check the document that arrived. The property could not be given because I had no accounting, no kind of update. This property was owned by the Ministry of Defense.
Basil: Then why did they ask you? You were a leader in the Sustainment Logistics Command that manages most of the Army’s assets.
Rental: It was all fictitious procedure. I’m not saying that I had pressure. I have been requested through orders and letters and I have responded according to law. Mr. Bylykbashi’s anti-corruption office came and asked me to sign that thing, telling me that the owners who request it could cause problems for the state, I have everything according to the law. After I left, I was fired in September, I don’t know what happened. Until the moment I was in command, I did not sign it because it was illegal. I am very sorry for Mr. Jamarbër who accuses me of corruption because I know what I have removed after this procedure. I was a state employee, I carried out my duties in the most serious way.
Zheji: You said that you did not have any pressure, but you went to the Commander-in-Chief and the Minister, the Anticorruption came to you several times, so this is the pressure.
Rental: I was asked to sign the procedure for the privatization of the Partizani complex by the Minister of Defense Mr. Oketa. I have told him that this property is not in the accounting and that this is where I go out. I could not carry out an order that was against the laws.
Lubonia: Why did these come to you and not go to the one who had the truth to sign this and who is he? Who had this in the notebook?
Rental: The Ministry of Defense has many properties and according to the commands they also have their accounting. I had properties all over Albania, but the Partizani club was not mine. The Ministry of Defense had it.
Hila: What command did he have?
Rental: I told him this too. This property belonged to the ministry and I don’t know who the firm belonged to.
Basil: Why did they ask you?
Rental: I don’t know, it could have been the Ministry of Defense or the General Staff. I know that it belonged to the Minister of Defense and then it was with JSC Partizani, with the Partizani football club with president Albert Xhanin. I was put in front of an order for a property I didn’t have.. I’m telling you I was conscious in everything I did. How it was signed further, I don’t know anything. I have nothing against the owners, whoever took it should enjoy it. As a citizen, I could not respond to this order. I received the minister’s order to sign it and I asked the chief of staff why this property comes to be signed by me when I don’t have it in the accounting. I was a state employee and I approached my state based on the laws.
Maltez: Soldiers received money to bring in informals. I have the anti-corruption report for the Minister of Defense to initiate disciplinary measures against Qirjaz
Rental: I know this document well!
Maltez: Please listen to me. On page 2 you quote it was never taken over by the support command and can’t deliver it. This property is said to have been taken into administration. these have been mentioned by the respective directors. These two directors say these have been given and do not represent interest. maybe you knew that there was ping pong with the properties, but you knew that there were informal people there.
Rental: I didn’t know at all. I did the work I was assigned to do. I know the document very well and I responded to it by addressing the Prime Minister of the time Sali Berisha and Bamir Topi. I am completely convinced of what I have done and said. I have said everything, the property is not in the accounting, I did not try to take it, I wanted to do legal procedures to take it and move on and they did not allow me.
Eni Vasili: Did they want to freeze your signature?
Rental: I’m glad you said it because I didn’t. How long I was dealing with this procedure alone says it all.
Eni Vasili: In your view, the procedure of your successor is legal or not, privatization that is?
Rental: Mrs. Eni, I see that Mr. Jamarbër is trying to extract documents that have nothing to do with me and saying that there were people who took bribes, I assure you that they have nothing to do with me. I started the procedure in 2009. It’s the same as a directory where you give an order to sell News24, it’s terrible. In all this, I have only done my duty as a citizen. It is naive to think that a general of the Armed Forces knows what the order is and makes no effort to implement the order of the leaders, but I am so calm about everything I have done. I was transferred from that command, I was released in 2009, today I have put my worries to rest and I am suffering the consequences of something that I implemented with the orders of the state. She is not my father’s property.